Big Blue Huddle

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Maybe we get Hunter and go with Stafford and set sights on a QB next year...or a later round project this year.

Giving up a 3rd round pick or so for an All-Pro QB is not a bad thing. Our team has missed on so many big picks that grabbing Stafford for one of them will make us have some fun because we know what he is. Finally we would have a true QB gunslinger who excels in pressure and 2 minute drill.

I look at top picks we made who were misses or close to a miss and I say let's enjoy some football next year. Ya never know.

All of the following to the best of my knowledge were chosen rounds 1-3....translate that to the upcoming and future draft - there's a good chance who we choose won't be a big time player let alone a star player. Stafford is a star. Give one of these future low round picks, go for a QB in next year draft, and let's enjoy the 2025 season. We may make the playoffs and our star WR will be overjoyed instead of becoming a negative voice.

Would u trade Stafford for any of these players today?...all were taken within in rounds 1-4 I think. There's a great chance a future 3rd round pick may become one of these types.
Evan Neal
JMS
Banks
Thibs
WanDale
Ezudo
Tony
Peart
Flowers
Apple
Hernandez

I'd much rather go with Winston or Fields this year along with a rookie. If the rookie is not a first round pick, then unless he shows amazing promise, go for another QB next year. Stafford is playing the Giants now. I don't blame him. He's a very good QB who has played in ideal climates (Domes or L.A). He will struggle in NY with a team with marginal talent.

Looks like Raiders have the inside track

https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/big-blue-plus/report-raiders-matthew-stafford-reach-common-ground-on-contract-01jn50wbp8zp?utm_source=reddit.com

This whole story enrages me.  And makes me want to give up my tickets forever.  Trade for an old QB who will be retired by the time the giants are super bowl quality again? This sounds just like the Jets with Rodgers, except the Jets were better.

So,  because our GM sucks,  we shouldn't go the build through the draft route? We should just go against the grain to help him keep his job,  win something like 7 games, and be even more in limbo than now?

I would sign him if there was no draft pick capital.  I don't want a QB at number three overall and want to go the veteran route.  But completely against trading for a 37 year old QB that is more of a statue than Eli. That's not the prototype QB nowadays at all.

All this bs because Mara in all his infinite wisdom put a demand on the team for next year,  so instead of having one more bad year and setting up for a QB and better times ahead in 2026 and beyond,  we are going to take the shortcut and move backwards? I sure hope that Raiders rumor is right because this story just absolutely pisses me off.

Stafford had zero interest in coming here, and was using the Giants as a bargaining chip. This is truly rock bottom.

The good news is, the Giants will now use the pick they were going to trade for Stafford and trade up to #1. I just hope it's for Ward.

Quote from: 4 Aces on February 27, 2025, 11:55:42 PMStafford had zero interest in coming here, and was using the Giants as a bargaining chip. This is truly rock bottom.

The good news is, the Giants will now use the pick they were going to trade for Stafford and trade up to #1. I just hope it's for Ward.

I agree about Stafford that he had no interest in coming here. I don't agree about trading up to number 1. Every draft pick is important to us and I don't want to lose any. . The number 1 pick will not get us a Jaden Daniels or an Andrew Luck etc. From what I read the pick was our number 2 this year plus picks next year. No thank you . I will stay at number 3.

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on February 28, 2025, 01:02:26 AMI agree about Stafford that he had no interest in coming here. I don't agree about trading up to number 1. Every draft pick is important to us and I don't want to lose any. . The number 1 pick will not get us a Jaden Daniels or an Andrew Luck etc. From what I read the pick was our number 2 this year plus picks next year. No thank you . I will stay at number 3.

I'm not sure there will be much interest in that number one pick this year. Unless it's for Hunter. The number 2 pick will get some interest. Cleveland has some leverage.

https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1895311549272858960

https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1895452332026143148

I think ultimately he stays there, but to suggest that Stafford wouldn't make the Giants monumentally better immediately is a bit of a farce to me.  Depending on what it would cost in terms of picks of course.  Because if they were to say get Stafford draft Hunter at 3 and a OG at #34.  I mean...that's a pretty damn good team before we even start talking about free agency.  Where the Giants even with a Stafford contract would have a lot of space to add a couple more starters.

If it were me I wouldn't do it, because I would want to get a rookie in and build around him while he learns on the job.  But I wasn't told by my boss win immediately or we're firing you and all your friends.  So given that mandate from ownership I completely understand trying to get the QB that gave the Eagles their biggest scare in the playoffs last year. 

I think the Giants make the playoffs as a wild card with Stafford next year.  My concern would be the years after that how do they address the QB position when they are likely not going to be terrible enough to actually draft a guy to build a future with.  The team is good enough right now that this could be their last shot unless they openly tank and had Devito the keys.

Quote from: Gmo11 on February 28, 2025, 09:02:40 AMI think ultimately he stays there, but to suggest that Stafford wouldn't make the Giants monumentally better immediately is a bit of a farce to me.  Depending on what it would cost in terms of picks of course.  Because if they were to say get Stafford draft Hunter at 3 and a OG at #34.  I mean...that's a pretty damn good team before we even start talking about free agency.  Where the Giants even with a Stafford contract would have a lot of space to add a couple more starters.

If it were me I wouldn't do it, because I would want to get a rookie in and build around him while he learns on the job.  But I wasn't told by my boss win immediately or we're firing you and all your friends.  So given that mandate from ownership I completely understand trying to get the QB that gave the Eagles their biggest scare in the playoffs last year. 

I think the Giants make the playoffs as a wild card with Stafford next year.  My concern would be the years after that how do they address the QB position when they are likely not going to be terrible enough to actually draft a guy to build a future with.  The team is good enough right now that this could be their last shot unless they openly tank and had Devito the keys.

I'd do it in a heartbeat. We k ow what we get with Stafford but we don't know what we get with a draft pick. I posted a bunch of former picks rounds 1-3 and most have not panned out. Stafford will

Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on February 27, 2025, 11:45:26 PMThis whole story enrages me.  And makes me want to give up my tickets forever.  Trade for an old QB who will be retired by the time the giants are super bowl quality again? This sounds just like the Jets with Rodgers, except the Jets were better.

So,  because our GM sucks,  we shouldn't go the build through the draft route? We should just go against the grain to help him keep his job,  win something like 7 games, and be even more in limbo than now?

I would sign him if there was no draft pick capital.  I don't want a QB at number three overall and want to go the veteran route.  But completely against trading for a 37 year old QB that is more of a statue than Eli. That's not the prototype QB nowadays at all.

All this bs because Mara in all his infinite wisdom put a demand on the team for next year,  so instead of having one more bad year and setting up for a QB and better times ahead in 2026 and beyond,  we are going to take the shortcut and move backwards? I sure hope that Raiders rumor is right because this story just absolutely pisses me off.

Why are you up in arms about speculation during the silly season? There are disinformation campaigns every year to throw people off the trail and avoid giving hints about a team's intentions. I get that there isn't much love for Schoen but he doesn't telegraph his moves a la his predecessor.

Let things play out before you give yourself a coronary! 

Quote from: Trench on February 28, 2025, 09:12:56 AMI'd do it in a heartbeat. We k ow what we get with Stafford but we don't know what we get with a draft pick. I posted a bunch of former picks rounds 1-3 and most have not panned out. Stafford will

Yes, 1, maybe 2 years of a QB past his prime and likely declining.

Not worth 50M per year.

Quote from: Gmo11 on February 28, 2025, 09:02:40 AMI think ultimately he stays there, but to suggest that Stafford wouldn't make the Giants monumentally better immediately is a bit of a farce to me.  Depending on what it would cost in terms of picks of course.  Because if they were to say get Stafford draft Hunter at 3 and a OG at #34.  I mean...that's a pretty damn good team before we even start talking about free agency.  Where the Giants even with a Stafford contract would have a lot of space to add a couple more starters.

If it were me I wouldn't do it, because I would want to get a rookie in and build around him while he learns on the job.  But I wasn't told by my boss win immediately or we're firing you and all your friends.  So given that mandate from ownership I completely understand trying to get the QB that gave the Eagles their biggest scare in the playoffs last year. 

I think the Giants make the playoffs as a wild card with Stafford next year. My concern would be the years after that how do they address the QB position when they are likely not going to be terrible enough to actually draft a guy to build a future with.  The team is good enough right now that this could be their last shot unless they openly tank and had Devito the keys.

This is why you do not mortgage the future in any capacity for a flash in the pan.

Retain as much of the young guys and people that contribute as possible, bring in more guys to strengthen and compliment the core, big picture, not small. A solid vet in FA is still lightyears above what we have had with Jones and Devito.