Where is the love for what Schen has done?

[EDjohnst1981]

True, but when was the last time they had a losing season, even with weak QBs?

They've never had one under Tomlin, so you'd have to go back past '06.

But it's utterly meaningless in the grand pursuit of it all though, isn't it? The Giants have more super bowls in the Tomlin era and more playoff wins over the last 8 years.

All in all, which would you prefer- our record over since 06 or theirs? Plus they are left holding the baby whilst Rodgers decides what to do - only last week that seemed like a cardinal sin or maybe fans are just fickle, inconsistent and simply sail with the wind.

[Painter]

I'm satisfied with the Wilson/Winston choice. It makes sense as it is a cost-sensible (can't say cost-effective until proven although I'm optimistic) which allows flexibility and a range of options in both this year's Draft and next year's FA and Draft.

Schoen and Daboll will be free of the Gettleman cap and feckless QB burden such that if they can show real progress and perhaps double the wins, they should then have a fair and equitable chance to prove their worth for a time to come. That's all that they or any of us can ask for, .n'est-ce pas?

Cheers!

 

[LennG]

 I said at the end of this past season that he deserves to be around. He hit a real home run in his last draft, and that has to count for something.

 I look back, and if we had lost one more game the season before, Daniels would be our QB now, and Schoen could be a genius by drafting him. Schoen does what he needs to do. He didn't win that one game, and he has to play with the cards he is dealt. Sure he has screwed up several times. He did try to retain Barkley, supposedly even offering him more money than the Eagle were giving. He can't drag him back here. His biggest mistake was giving Jones that huge contract instead of franchising him. Look, even if Barkely were still a Giant, he would never even come close to the year he just had. Our offense wasn't built for that. I think he really came across badly on Hard Knocks, and that stayed with him for the season.

To any that are skeptical, if you were our GM this FA period, what would you have done differently with the money we had and the needs we had?
 

[Gmo11]

I said at the end of this past season that he deserves to be around. He hit a real home run in his last draft, and that has to count for something.

 I look back, and if we had lost one more game the season before, Daniels would be our QB now, and Schoen could be a genius by drafting him. Schoen does what he needs to do. He didn't win that one game, and he has to play with the cards he is dealt. Sure he has screwed up several times. He did try to retain Barkley, supposedly even offering him more money than the Eagle were giving. He can't drag him back here. His biggest mistake was giving Jones that huge contract instead of franchising him. Look, even if Barkely were still a Giant, he would never even come close to the year he just had. Our offense wasn't built for that. I think he really came across badly on Hard Knocks, and that stayed with him for the season.

To any that are skeptical, if you were our GM this FA period, what would you have done differently with the money we had and the needs we had?
 

The only thing I would have done differently is taking the Wilson money and giving it to a starting RG. I like Schoen a lot but he's shown no ability to draft OL so I would have tried to find a known commodity and then drafted a QB. The thinking being that woould better set them up for the future.

Oh and I would have told Rodgers to kick rocks the minute his agent called and then blocked the number.

[Brooklyn Dave]

I do not want to be hypocritical bewcause I thought it was wrong to keep Schoen and Daboll. That said , i do want to defend him , at leastfor his last two drafts .

Evan Neal was rated the top or near the top of the OL men coming out of the draft. Nick Saban lauded him. John  Michael Schmitz was either the second rated center right behind Joe Tippermann, or by some as the top rated center. He was said to have a mean streak and a guy who could be starting for years to come .

We thought , at least I did ,that an OL featuring Thomas as LT , Schmitz center and Neal at RT would turn out to be a superior OL. I do not think that Schoen was wrong. Signing Glowinski as a FA , at the time was also a good move .

In addition I was thrilled with the drafting of Keyvon Thibodeaux . At one point some had him at as the best player in the draft.

[bamagiantfan]

If someone slips to three the Giants can now trade out if they don't like the pick and someone is willing to offer a boatload of picks in exchange. He has put the team in a good position to maneuver during the draft if offers come.

For me though, my opinion of Schoen will ultimately be linked to whether or not they have meaningful games in December before his successful picks end their 3rd or 4th years and start leaving for greener pastures.

[Rinaken]

Let us be honest as well about one thing. We probably had the worst head coach in the NFL the last 2 years, so there is a lot of pressure for Daboll to show something or anything. Another slow start where we are not prepared and not filling out game day rosters (ahem, Commanders game) - that is also a reflection on Schoen as well.