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Winston it is!

Started by Gmo11, March 21, 2025, 07:49:49 PM

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LennG

Come on guys, we needed a bridge QB till whomever we do draft will be ready to go. Winston isn't the future and we sure aren't going to the playoffs next year.
For what we got him, it's a steal. We would never get Rodgers for that and if we did get Rodgers, do you really think we xould win a lot more games? The future is whomever we do draft and Winston is just a placeholder.
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Jclayton92

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 21, 2025, 08:40:45 PMSo lets ask this. Is Winston a better QB than Daniel Jones?

Sorry all you JW fans but if he's QB1, then cutting Jones and eating the cap and then signing Winston?

I'll say it. Beyond stupid.

If they still sign Wilson, then no QB in the first round. Ok, I can buy that one.

If its Flacco and Winston, then that's also beyond stupid for a QB competition.

Whats the guaranteed money?
The differentiator is that Winston pushes the ball downfield while Jones either can't or won't. Not to mention the offense being called had to be significantly altered to accommodate Jones deficiencies as a passer, and you wouldn't have to do that with Winston. I'd much rather turn it over attacking 20 yards downfield, than turning it over trying a 2 yard out to Wandale. That's my opinion though.

Ed Vette

Quote from: T200 on March 21, 2025, 08:55:14 PMWhat would be the point of keeping Jones? He's damaged goods and his performance was a limiting factor for the offense. To a man, every person on this site was frustrated at the lack of deep throws because Jones was shortsighted.

We know what we had in Jones and what we're getting in Winston. For 4 million a year for a veteran QB with a live arm, I'd do that every time.
Jones is the same QB as Winston. 13 TDs and 12 ints. Let's see what the next move is.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Ed Vette

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 21, 2025, 09:10:14 PMThe differentiator is that Winston pushes the ball downfield while Jones either can't or won't. Not to mention the offense being called had to be significantly altered to accommodate Jones deficiencies as a passer, and you wouldn't have to do that with Winston. I'd much rather turn it over attacking 20 yards downfield, than turning it over trying a 2 yard out to Wandale. That's my opinion though.
So you also think he's QB1? Ok, maybe its me. I don't see it.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Gmo11

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 21, 2025, 08:40:45 PMSo lets ask this. Is Winston a better QB than Daniel Jones?

Sorry all you JW fans but if he's QB1, then cutting Jones and eating the cap and then signing Winston?

I'll say it. Beyond stupid.

If they still sign Wilson, then no QB in the first round. Ok, I can buy that one.

If its Flacco and Winston, then that's also beyond stupid for a QB competition.

Whats the guaranteed money?

I think he's significantly better than Jones. That's just my opinion. He's a bit wild but look at the numbers the browns WRs just put up with him starting. None of them are nearly as talented as Nabers. Hyatt might finally be able to get off the bench. It'll even help Tracy. The team just became watchable. And they're still drafting a QB but at least now they don't have to play the rookie before he's ready and when he is ready Winston won't be a pain in the ass about stepping aside.

Jclayton92

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 21, 2025, 09:15:40 PMSo you also think he's QB1? Ok, maybe its me. I don't see it.
Oh absolutely not, I don't particularly like Winston, Wilson, or Rodgers. I am however more optimistic with Winston, than Jones, but we definitely need another Qb.

spiderblue43

Yea. Do happy dance..everyone..and inspiring guy..yea.  :dance:  :Giants:  :boldblue:  :boldblue:

spiderblue43

Jameis is the ultimate test for Dabes..he has amazing talent

But yea,, spider is very good here

MrGap92

Winston isn't anything special, but he is absolutely better than Jones or Lock, no question.

H-Town G-Fan

Quote from: Ed Vette on March 21, 2025, 09:11:04 PMJones is the same QB as Winston. 13 TDs and 12 ints. Let's see what the next move is.

Jameis is career 4.8 TD%, 3.5 INT%, 7.6 YPA.

Jones is 3.1 TD%, 2.1 INT%, 6.5 YPA.

I don't know how you can reasonably claim they're the same quarterback. Jameis is a gunslinger while Jones is a dink-and-dunk game manager (who lost his best asset in running due to injuries). Personally, I'd much rather watch Jameis air it out and turn it over than suffer Jones continually staring down his target and throwing behind the sticks. Both are, at best, bridge QBs in the end. At least with Winston you have the upside of letting Nabers, Slayton and Johnson make plays downfield to challenge the defense.

Gman329

Mostly, I'm just glad it's DONE!  Now draft Hunter or Carter and trade up from 34 and grab Dart!

Ed Vette

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 21, 2025, 09:21:02 PMOh absolutely not, I don't particularly like Winston, Wilson, or Rodgers. I am however more optimistic with Winston, than Jones, but we definitely need another Qb.
maybe Dart or Sanders will surprise me and start mid-season. Maybe the still sign Wilson and draft Hunter or Carter and work the second pick for a QB.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Ed Vette

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on March 21, 2025, 09:31:54 PMJameis is career 4.8 TD%, 3.5 INT%, 7.6 YPA.

Jones is 3.1 TD%, 2.1 INT%, 6.5 YPA.

I don't know how you can reasonably claim they're the same quarterback. Jameis is a gunslinger while Jones is a dink-and-dunk game manager (who lost his best asset in running due to injuries). Personally, I'd much rather watch Jameis air it out and turn it over than suffer Jones continually staring down his target and throwing behind the sticks. Both are, at best, bridge QBs in the end. At least with Winston you have the upside of letting Nabers, Slayton and Johnson make plays downfield to challenge the defense.
Either way they lose. This way they spend 8 million more. I still don't think they ride with Winston.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Ed Vette

Quote from: Gman329 on March 21, 2025, 09:32:22 PMMostly, I'm just glad it's DONE!  Now draft Hunter or Carter and trade up from 34 and grab Dart!
Well, at least they have a QB in the house besides Tommy.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

spiderblue43

Because he can a perfect bridge for Nabors..get him deep..throw the rock
sixty yards penalty maybe

I think about Nabors..omg ..he must happy