Winston it is!

[spiderblue43]

He was 2-5 as a starter last season. There were four games where they scored less than 15 points. When he was on he threw for a lot of yards in a few games, but he took a lot of sacks. Six against the Chargers and five against KC.

Lets hope for the best.

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That was with a terribly coached saints team .  that had given up..oh my..but hardly the answer..okay .?? Last year in  Cleveland ..he had a moment or too..okay..C'mon .but a decent bridge..no?? With Daboll inform of us his great QB development? Now? He has a great talent now .prove it

[killarich]

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That was with a terribly coached saints team .  that had given up..oh my..but hardly the answer..okay .?? Last year in  Cleveland ..he had a moment or too..okay..C'mon .but a decent bridge..no?? With Daboll inform of us his great QB development? Now? He has a great talent now .prove it

Sticking Dabs with Jones .... Now Winston .... It's starting to seem like he's the one who hasn't been getting a fair shake


Winston is 31 not 25.... We already know what his "talent" is ..... he is an explosive qb who is just as explosive in the turnover department

Dabs may be good with QBs but that doesn't mean he should have to work with this level of talent

If this is who the Giants are rolling with ... they've have to draft a QB .... And give Dabs and Joe at least one more season

[PSUBeirut]

Hoping this is it for QBs until the draft.  Very glad with this choice and the money involved- it makes a lot of sense for where the Giants are right now, and hey at least the offense will be entertaining!!!! I can promise you this, there will be more passing TDs this year than we've been used to seeing. 

[spiderblue43]

Sticking Dabs with Jones .... Now Winston .... It's starting to seem like he's the one who hasn't been getting a fair shake


Winston is 31 not 25.... We already know what his "talent" is ..... he is an explosive qb who is just as explosive in the turnover department

Dabs may be good with QBs but that doesn't mean he should have to work with this level of talent

If this is who the Giants are rolling with ... they've have to draft a QB .... And give Dabs and Joe at least one more season

Quite a retort .but not my point..the brass put them on themaeves..he's the best option.before the draft..when it will decide

[spiderblue43]

But spider likes it..okay guys to chime in always.. disagree..say hmmm..that's what we're for.. good for Jameis.. welcome   

[MrGap92]

I think that's an easy bet to take.

He had 2,100 yards, 13 TDs with 12 ints in 7 games. That's pacing 300 yards a game - plus the receivers are better here.

5100yds 31td 30int and some entertaining interviews and quotes

I am here for it at this point

[Jnrbuckeye2756]

LMAO.
There's a plan in place, huh?
For the Giants To Remain the Bottom dweller,....
Must be the plan.

[H-Town G-Fan]

LMAO.
There's a plan in place, huh?
For the Giants To Remain the Bottom dweller,....
Must be the plan.

What QB could the Giants sign in free agency that would single-handedly change them from being a "bottom dweller" in 2025? What would be the non-bottom dwelling plan you're in favor of, pray tell? My guess to the former is "none" and the latter is "I don't know" (or is not in realm of reality, which is the same thing).

It's a $4MM per year deal--literally 1.5% of the cap--for a veteran QB with starting experience who is well-regarded in locker rooms. Painting it as some travesty or failure of "plan" seems entirely misguided to me. And that conclusion is premised on the idea that the Giants are done at QB, despite still having plenty of room to sign another and having the draft ahead of them.

[Brooklyn Dave]

What QB could the Giants sign in free agency that would single-handedly change them from being a "bottom dweller" in 2025? What would be the non-bottom dwelling plan you're in favor of, pray tell? My guess to the former is "none" and the latter is "I don't know" (or is not in realm of reality, which is the same thing).

It's a $4MM per year deal--literally 1.5% of the cap--for a veteran QB with starting experience who is well-regarded in locker rooms. Painting it as some travesty or failure of "plan" seems entirely misguided to me. And that conclusion is premised on the idea that the Giants are done at QB, despite still having plenty of room to sign another and having the draft ahead of them.

You are spot on my friend  . There was no QB out there that was going to make thec team playoff ready next year. Their schedule is brutal and Winston is better than anyone they had last year. They are going to draft a QB , hopefully not with the third pick and go on. Their FA signings have strengthen the team and maybe there is a legitimate plan in place.

By drafting Hunter, Carter or Graham will add to making the teram better for the future .

[DaveBrown74]

I am shocked Mara signed off on this. I thought Mara was pretty rigid around character stuff. Winston's past is dark, to say the absolute least.

Aside from the above considerations (which are non-trivial in my mind if you believe in the Giants' normally squeaky-clean image), I like this move as the contract is peanuts and Winston gives you the big arm and the swashbuckling, downfield style that our offense sorely lacked with Jones and Tommy D. You're signing up for a lot of bonehead INTs but also a lot of big plays. With 'Leek needing to be fed the ball as much as possible that makes sense at this point given the alternatives.

A lot of the INTs will be downfield too, I suspect. Much better to get picked on a 50 yard bomb than 6 yards in front of the line of scrimmage.

No way they should have kept Jones. Yes, by cutting him they ate some dead cap, but cutting Jones plus adding Winston is less money out of pocket than keeping Jones and adding nobody. They saved plenty of money by cutting him despite the dead cap. Maybe Jones can be better somewhere else, but what we saw from him the last two seasons is vastly inferior to Winston. And there is simply no world where Jones is worth $40mm per.

I don't know what the next move is, but I hope it's not to also sign Rodgers as I don't think he's worth what he's going to get paid and I don't really think they need his diva act. Clearly they're not done. If they have a strong view on Cam Ward and want to trade up, I can live with that but it would not be my preferred move. I think I prefer that to drafting Shedeur though. Somehow ending up with Dart would probably be my first choice of remaining moves.

[londonblue]

I think this is the right move for the bridge QB. He is a great locker room guy and brings infectious energy. He will help lift the mood and be a positive influence temperamentally on any draft pick. Personally I still expect us to add another veteran as additional insurance, maybe Flacco. Then draft a guy. Not necessarily at 3. Then chuck it all at a wall in camp and see what sticks. In the circumstances it is probably the most sensible approach.

[Jnrbuckeye2756]

What QB could the Giants sign in free agency that would single-handedly change them from being a "bottom dweller" in 2025? What would be the non-bottom dwelling plan you're in favor of, pray tell? My guess to the former is "none" and the latter is "I don't know" (or is not in realm of reality, which is the same thing).

It's a $4MM per year deal--literally 1.5% of the cap--for a veteran QB with starting experience who is well-regarded in locker rooms. Painting it as some travesty or failure of "plan" seems entirely misguided to me. And that conclusion is premised on the idea that the Giants are done at QB, despite still having plenty of room to sign another and having the draft ahead of them.

Pathetic choice in Winston. Doesn't even belong in NFL.

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1903295974753050802

[DaveBrown74]

Pathetic choice in Winston. Doesn't even belong in NFL.

I don't know that I'd go that far. Winston in 2024 was decisively better than Jones in either 2024 and 2023. We got Winston at $4m/yr for 2 years, while Jones was paid $14m.

Winston is getting paid mid level backup money with some incentives tied in. I'm not high on Winston's abilities either, but he does some things that we have been missing, and even if you're really down on him, $4mm/yr for a QB is absolute pocket lint. The Giants got a very good price here.

For a bridge/backup you can do plenty worse than Winston.

I also think it's fair to say the Giants have had enough of dink and dunk QBs and want/need someone who can air it out more.

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1903281117286879351