Giants sign Wilson

[Brooklyn Dave]

The big question mark at QB will be Milroe. Will be a big  bust or the second coming of Lamar Jackson , although I am told he is a better runner than Jackson .

Can some QB WHisperer teach him how to pass properly, learn how to read defenses , how to check off , when to throw the ball away etc? If that person can be located Milroe can be a superstar in the league .

[Trench]

I was listening to podcasts this morning that painted Wilson as a guy who threw almost all his passes outside the numbers.  I watched Bobby's video, paying attention to how many of Wilson's completions were inside the numbers.  There were far more than I was expecting.


https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1904668102232601053

I watched a highlight clip last night of Wilson and came away with the exact same concerns - wow everything is outside the numbers.

I'm very glad to hear you have seen otherwise because Theo needs to be a major contributor

[MightyGiants]

One thing I watch for on deeper throws is how much the receiver has to adjust to the QB's throw.   Wilson was so on target there was hardly any adjustment by his receivers on these long throws

https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1904930078045204534

[andrew_nyGiants]

Andrew,

I like how Schoen is playing in the off-season. With these two signings, the pressure is off in terms of forcing a QB at three.   It remains to be seen if Schoen will play the draft correctly, but at least now he has the ability to do so.

I really have no issue with Schoen. My anger and frustration is pointed toward Mara, as he's cut Joe off at the knees as I see it, and when you combine that with the fact that Johnny has no clue how to hire, it keeps us dysfunctional.

[EDjohnst1981]

Andrew,

I like how Schoen is playing in the off-season. With these two signings, the pressure is off in terms of forcing a QB at three.   It remains to be seen if Schoen will play the draft correctly, but at least now he has the ability to do so.

Yup. And the last draft was very good.

Hopefully that continues.

His first draft he napped the consensus 2 and 3 picks. They've not pannned out. That's not all on him.

I think he drafts okay and makes additions better outside of the draft.

I'm excited to see what he and his team can find in April.

[MightyGiants]

Yup. And the last draft was very good.

Hopefully that continues.

His first draft he napped the consensus 2 and 3 picks. They've not pannned out. That's not all on him.

I think he drafts okay and makes additions better outside of the draft.

I'm excited to see what he and his team can find in April.

Schoen did have a strong draft in 2024.  It's hard to fault him heavily for Neal and Thibs.  I think the biggest issue  I have with Schoen was his drafting of outliers (Wan'Dale and Flott,  and drafting two players from the terrible NC O-line in draft one (Ezeudu and McKethan).  Regardless of how I feel, I think it's fairly objective to say overall, Schoen has not done a good job maximizing the draft capital he was given over the last 3 drafts (even though my individual faults were limited to 4 picks or so.

Part of the issue is the team still has Ronnie Barnes.  If you recall, I posted how many injuries and time was missed by Gettleman's last draft class.  It's hard to have successful drafts if they are spending more time in the trainer's room than on the field.

I guess beyond the issues I listed in the first paragraph, I would have liked to see Schoen draft at least one QB in his first 3 years.  By Schoen's own actions, it's not like he had a crowded QB room full of proven talent.

[ViewFromSection129]

So by signing both of these QBs to me it's a pretty clear indication that they want to win right now this season, and that makes sense given what Mara said in no uncertain terms after the season.  Which means taking a QB at #3 is off the board.  Which it should be at this point because why draft a guy to be 3rd string?  It's one thing to sign Winston OR Wilson, draft a guy, and then bring the rookie along slowly.  But what happens if Russ gets hurt or plays like crap?  Winston is the backup and do you think the noise around the team is going to be fine with that, or are they going to be clamoring for the top 5 pick rookie to come in and light up the field?  It's setting up the team for disaster and controversy. 

It's the same reason why they signed Lock as the backup to Jones last year.  They had to find somebody worse than Jones or else it was creating chaos in their own locker room.

What Russ can do at this stage of his career is just enough to keep them out of the top 5 of the draft but not enough to get them into the playoffs.  Especially with this schedule.  So if you're looking ahead and saying "oh well they'll just get a QB next year". Will they be able to?  Cause they're gonna be drafting around 10-15.  And take a look at the price of moving up into QB position this year. Is that a price you're willing to pay for a rookie QB next year?  When they had a shot right now to just take the 2nd best QB in the draft or take one later in the 1st/early 2nd. 

The issue I have is not with Wilson himself.  He's going to give the Giants the best QB play they've had in a decade and it'll be nice.  But Mara mandating this team win right now immediately is, as per usual, short sighted and going to cause long term damage to the team.  If only he could keep his big mouth shut.

I like this take,  but the one thing I don't know i agree with is the giants ending up around 10-15 in the draft pecking order next year.  Yes,  we've gotten better,  but we were 3-14 this year.  And with next year's schedule,  I'm not sure i see us being that dramatically better. Better talent,  but not great talent... and a very hard schedule.  Time will tell.

[Trench]

It's gonna be very interesting to see how Dabol handles the preseason games.