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Started by President Rick, March 25, 2025, 06:54:13 PM

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londonblue

1. This is a smart move as we are now better protected against injuries having 2 QB who can start NFL games for a combined $14.5m of guarantees, which is peanuts. Neither guys are a long-term answer but they combine to form a solid bridge.
2. It gives us flexibility at 3. If we love Sanders and he is there we draft him. Otherwise BPA and a QB later.
3. Enough with the Milroe talk. He'd be a late day 3 guy without the Bama helmet. Big arm, fast legs, tiny brain. He's about QB10 in this class for me.
4. No AR is a very good thing.

Schoen has had a very good free agency IMO without mortgaging the future as many here feared. He needs to have an equally good draft then it is up to Daboll and his staff.
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katkavage

Quote from: londonblue on March 26, 2025, 06:20:55 AM1. This is a smart move as we are now better protected against injuries having 2 QB who can start NFL games for a combined $14.5m of guarantees, which is peanuts. Neither guys are a long-term answer but they combine to form a solid bridge.
2. It gives us flexibility at 3. If we love Sanders and he is there we draft him. Otherwise BPA and a QB later.
3. Enough with the Milroe talk. He'd be a late day 3 guy without the Bama helmet. Big arm, fast legs, tiny brain. He's about QB10 in this class for me.
4. No AR is a very good thing.

Schoen has had a very good free agency IMO without mortgaging the future as many here feared. He needs to have an equally good draft then it is up to Daboll and his staff.
I hope when you reference Milroe's "tiny brain" you mean football brain. He might be the best student, most accomplished academically than any other QB available. If you want a better reference for a tiny football brain, think of Daniel Jones, Duke grad.

Gmo11

Quote from: GordonGekko80 on March 26, 2025, 04:37:16 AMHonestly, I see this making sense. Here's why:

This Draft is not QB-heavy, neither is it a high quality draft for QBs.

Shadeur, Dart, Ward etc... I don't think these guys are really good players to start with. Sanders in my view lacks the personality to be in NY. The NY Market is completely different as opposed to any other market in the NFL, and if there's a guy that is prone to put himself in the spotlight, well then you're in for a treat.

It also takes away some pressure from the Draft, where teams now know that the Giants might not go QB, so that rattles a couple of cages in terms of draft planning. The Giants CAN go QB still, but don't have to. They can also wait it out and draft one later if there's talent they think is worth taking.
They can also move back from the #3 spot and stack up picks. 

Also, there is a chance that the Giants are looking to draft Manning in 2026. I had that thought in the back of my head for a while now...

They are much too good to be in position to draft arch Manning unless he tears his ACL or something.

Gmo11

Quote from: londonblue on March 26, 2025, 06:20:55 AM1. This is a smart move as we are now better protected against injuries having 2 QB who can start NFL games for a combined $14.5m of guarantees, which is peanuts. Neither guys are a long-term answer but they combine to form a solid bridge.
2. It gives us flexibility at 3. If we love Sanders and he is there we draft him. Otherwise BPA and a QB later.
3. Enough with the Milroe talk. He'd be a late day 3 guy without the Bama helmet. Big arm, fast legs, tiny brain. He's about QB10 in this class for me.
4. No AR is a very good thing.

Schoen has had a very good free agency IMO without mortgaging the future as many here feared. He needs to have an equally good draft then it is up to Daboll and his staff.

All of those things are true and helpful to the 2025 team... but what happens after that? They're going to win too many games to finish in the top 5 of the draft but not good enough to make the playoffs. So where does that leave them?

londonblue

Gmo11, point 2 applies. If that does not provide the answer then we face the same options next year as we did this but with a GM, HC presumably extended and a better roster. Like every team in NFL we keep taking shots until we find the QB answer. There was no sure fire answer in free agency, draft or trade this year so we have lowered our immediate risk without stopping us taking a rookie. The 2026 class is no deeper than this one (Manning will not come out either for those hooked on nostalgia). No harm, no foul.
If you live your life as a pessimist you never really live your life at all.

MightyGiants

Quote from: londonblue on March 26, 2025, 06:20:55 AM1. This is a smart move as we are now better protected against injuries having 2 QB who can start NFL games for a combined $14.5m of guarantees, which is peanuts. Neither guys are a long-term answer but they combine to form a solid bridge.
2. It gives us flexibility at 3. If we love Sanders and he is there we draft him. Otherwise BPA and a QB later.
3. Enough with the Milroe talk. He'd be a late day 3 guy without the Bama helmet. Big arm, fast legs, tiny brain. He's about QB10 in this class for me.
4. No AR is a very good thing.

Schoen has had a very good free agency IMO without mortgaging the future as many here feared. He needs to have an equally good draft then it is up to Daboll and his staff.

Neil,

Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe won the 2024 William V. Campbell Trophy, also known as the "Academic Heisman," recognizing his achievements in academics, community service, and on-field performance.


Look, I appreciate that Milroe could prove to be another Malik Willis or Anthony Richardson, that is a very real risk.  However, he is the only QB (outside of Ward) with the tools to become a good starting NFL QB.  His run element is elite, and he throws an excellent deep ball with a solid arm.  He needs to be more consistent with his mechanics and I will confess his processing is still a question mark, but if you are going to take a chance on a developmental project, why not a project with the potential to be the team's answer?
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I was listening to podcasts this morning that painted Wilson as a guy who threw almost all his passes outside the numbers.  I watched Bobby's video, paying attention to how many of Wilson's completions were inside the numbers.  There were far more than I was expecting.


https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1904668102232601053
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Woody

With this signing.....a good one ......legit starting QB.   And the need to win this year ( for GM and coach). With the #3 pick in draft they absolutely need to get a day one starter, an impact player,that can start opening day.....or trade down to stockpile picks and still get best available at where they end up in round one...pick QB in second round if their is someone they like.
Do not reach at #3 for a QB .....


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Russell Wilson will be going from:

George Pickens —> Malik Nabers
Calvin Austin —> Wan'Dale Robinson
Van Jefferson —> Darius Slayton

Najee Harris —> Tyrone Tracy Jr

Steelers OL —> Giants OL

Arthur Smith —> Brian Daboll

ALL upgrades 👀

https://x.com/GmenScouting/status/1904737065477996905
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MrGap92

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 26, 2025, 08:04:42 AMNeil,

Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe won the 2024 William V. Campbell Trophy, also known as the "Academic Heisman," recognizing his achievements in academics, community service, and on-field performance.


Look, I appreciate that Milroe could prove to be another Malik Willis or Anthony Richardson, that is a very real risk.  However, he is the only QB (outside of Ward) with the tools to become a good starting NFL QB.  His run element is elite, and he throws an excellent deep ball with a solid arm.  He needs to be more consistent with his mechanics and I will confess his processing is still a question mark, but if you are going to take a chance on a developmental project, why not a project with the potential to be the team's answer?

Now having the luxury of being able to sit a guy for a year, or even a bit more, I am much more open to Milroe now than I was before the QB signings. I would be fine taking him as long as it isnt at 3.

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Doug Analytics
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Russell Wilson Time to Pass Splits

Under 2.5s to pass
• 113/152 (74.3%)
• 10 TDs | 1 INTs
• +0.21 EPA/play (7th/35)
• +3.0% CPOE (8th/35)

Over 2.5s to pass
• 101/182 (55.5%)
• 6 TDs | 4 INTs
• -0.29 EPA/play (33rd/35)
• +0.7% CPOE (17th/35)
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https://x.com/Doug_Analytics/status/1899842636913017289
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