Giants sign Wilson

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Connor Hughes
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I have no problem with #Giants signing Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston. I don't think they're much better than Daniel Jones & Drew Lock, but it's irrelevant.

Nothing has changed for what this team must do: Get your franchise QB.

That happens next month

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Dan Schneier
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The tape told a diff story despite Jameis/Russ having their flaws.
DJ & Lock didn't play QB fast. They didn't see things pre snap, post snap, the ball out late or not at all , rarely to back side of plays & ball placement waned at all levels of the field.
Russ&Jameis process both pre and post snap entirely differently. That doesn't mean they always can do. But at least they can think & at times find solutions the Giants QBs last year never could. For Russ, it's typically deep or intermediate & outside the numbers; but you'll see EXs of TEs bending the seam, and solutions in other areas of the field. Jameis finds them all over — but he also has brain farts that lead to INTs

https://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1904885174694789198

[andrew_nyGiants]

Here is the most important question in my mind.

When they don't win more than five games this year and maybe two at home, who is going to be in charge of the draft next year when identifying their franchise Quarterback is going to be critical to getting off of this merry go round?

I actually worry less about Schoens' ability to identify and pull talent than I do about Mara. That's not me complimenting Schoen BTW.

Second question: Who is going to coach this team?


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[MightyGiants]

Here is the most important question in my mind.

When they don't win more than five games this year and maybe two at home, who is going to be in charge of the draft next year when identifying their franchise Quarterback is going to be critical to getting off of this merry go round?

I actually worry less about Schoens' ability to identify and pull talent than I do about Mara. That's not me complimenting Schoen BTW.

Second question: Who is going to coach this team?


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Andrew,

Until we see how the draft plays out, your questions are difficult to answer.

[andrew_nyGiants]

I agree Rich.

So I guess the real question is, how do we move forward with an owner who is terrible at hiring a GM after putting his current GM in a no win situation?


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[MightyGiants]

I agree Rich.

So I guess the real question is, how do we move forward with an owner who is terrible at hiring a GM after putting his current GM in a no win situation?


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Andrew,

I like how Schoen is playing in the off-season. With these two signings, the pressure is off in terms of forcing a QB at three.   It remains to be seen if Schoen will play the draft correctly, but at least now he has the ability to do so.

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https://x.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1904890980228087995

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https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1904896749501583678

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While the majority of stuff is positive toward the signing.  There are some negatives

Steelers had no real interest in bringing back Russell Wilson
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Mike Florio


 https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/steelers-had-no-real-interest-in-bringing-back-russell-wilson

[MightyGiants]

From the guy who broke the Aaron Rodgers visit with the Steelers

https://x.com/gerrydulac/status/1904905953494921450

[Gmo11]

Gmo11, point 2 applies. If that does not provide the answer then we face the same options next year as we did this but with a GM, HC presumably extended and a better roster. Like every team in NFL we keep taking shots until we find the QB answer. There was no sure fire answer in free agency, draft or trade this year so we have lowered our immediate risk without stopping us taking a rookie. The 2026 class is no deeper than this one (Manning will not come out either for those hooked on nostalgia). No harm, no foul.

So by signing both of these QBs to me it's a pretty clear indication that they want to win right now this season, and that makes sense given what Mara said in no uncertain terms after the season.  Which means taking a QB at #3 is off the board.  Which it should be at this point because why draft a guy to be 3rd string?  It's one thing to sign Winston OR Wilson, draft a guy, and then bring the rookie along slowly.  But what happens if Russ gets hurt or plays like crap?  Winston is the backup and do you think the noise around the team is going to be fine with that, or are they going to be clamoring for the top 5 pick rookie to come in and light up the field?  It's setting up the team for disaster and controversy. 

It's the same reason why they signed Lock as the backup to Jones last year.  They had to find somebody worse than Jones or else it was creating chaos in their own locker room.

What Russ can do at this stage of his career is just enough to keep them out of the top 5 of the draft but not enough to get them into the playoffs.  Especially with this schedule.  So if you're looking ahead and saying "oh well they'll just get a QB next year". Will they be able to?  Cause they're gonna be drafting around 10-15.  And take a look at the price of moving up into QB position this year. Is that a price you're willing to pay for a rookie QB next year?  When they had a shot right now to just take the 2nd best QB in the draft or take one later in the 1st/early 2nd. 

The issue I have is not with Wilson himself.  He's going to give the Giants the best QB play they've had in a decade and it'll be nice.  But Mara mandating this team win right now immediately is, as per usual, short sighted and going to cause long term damage to the team.  If only he could keep his big mouth shut.

[sxdxca38]

So by signing both of these QBs to me it's a pretty clear indication that they want to win right now this season, and that makes sense given what Mara said in no uncertain terms after the season.  Which means taking a QB at #3 is off the board.  Which it should be at this point because why draft a guy to be 3rd string?  It's one thing to sign Winston OR Wilson, draft a guy, and then bring the rookie along slowly.  But what happens if Russ gets hurt or plays like crap?  Winston is the backup and do you think the noise around the team is going to be fine with that, or are they going to be clamoring for the top 5 pick rookie to come in and light up the field?  It's setting up the team for disaster and controversy. 

It's the same reason why they signed Lock as the backup to Jones last year.  They had to find somebody worse than Jones or else it was creating chaos in their own locker room.

What Russ can do at this stage of his career is just enough to keep them out of the top 5 of the draft but not enough to get them into the playoffs.  Especially with this schedule.  So if you're looking ahead and saying "oh well they'll just get a QB next year". Will they be able to?  Cause they're gonna be drafting around 10-15.  And take a look at the price of moving up into QB position this year. Is that a price you're willing to pay for a rookie QB next year?  When they had a shot right now to just take the 2nd best QB in the draft or take one later in the 1st/early 2nd. 

The issue I have is not with Wilson himself.  He's going to give the Giants the best QB play they've had in a decade and it'll be nice.  But Mara mandating this team win right now immediately is, as per usual, short sighted and going to cause long term damage to the team.  If only he could keep his big mouth shut.

In this I completely agree, Mara made a terrible statement to force a win now mandate on the coach and GM.

[files58]

One of the things I love about this board is the shared differences of opinion. Right now the QB room(sic) is light years ahead of where it was a year ago. Russell Wilson has forgotten things about being a QB that Jones has never will/never has known about being a QB. Daboll has someone who can run his whole offense, and not be spoonfed, and babysat like Jones. MOST IMPORTANT. We will draft a QB. It could be at #3 or anywhere. HE WILL BE MENTERED BY DABOLL AND WILSON. HE WILL BE SHOWN HOW TO BE A NFL QB. He will take over in 26' with Winston as backup.

[uconnjack8]

One thing I will say is that the two QBs are positive personalities, not sure how much that is worth on the field. 

[MightyGiants]

One thing I will say is that the two QBs are positive personalities, not sure how much that is worth on the field. 

Throw in Tommy Cutlets, the Giants just might have the most interesting QB room in the entire league