Big Blue Huddle

It's old school and unnecessary, but for whatever reason I just prefer to have about $100-$200 in cash on me when I'm out and about. I have had maybe one or two times in the last year when it has actually come in handy. Obviously, if I lost my wallet it would be worse with the money in there than without it, but I frankly haven't lost my wallet in at least 20 years.

Quote from: MrGap92 on December 02, 2024, 03:42:11 PM2026 is my vote, assuming the QB selection is successful alongside a couple more solid players added in FA and draft up until then.

They need to build through the draft. Too many holes to fill by signing free agents now that will affect the cap and who they draft down the road. Veteran free agents should only be signed to fill gaps in the roster, not build it.

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 02, 2024, 04:14:11 PMNot knowing the draft or off season acquisitions, it's a guess. Right now, this team is marginally better than the 2021 team. That year the secondary was better and the interior Defensive line had two good players. This year the Oline starters were better. The Receivers one starter better. No QB vs a shell of Jones.

I don't think it's any better

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 02, 2024, 04:20:48 PMObviously nobody can predict this sort of thing as there are too many unknowns, but I voted for more than four years because, right now at least, I see absolutely nothing about the way this organization is run or the decisions that get made at the top that gives me a shred of confidence that things are about to change dramatically for the better. I will be happy to be pleasantly surprised if they in fact do in the next 2-3 years.

Agreed.

Quote from: katkavage on December 02, 2024, 04:21:44 PMThis is a silly poll. There is no way you can make a determination now. It depends what happens after the season. If Schoen and Daboll remain. Who is the QB next year. If they are not retained who takes over. Harbaugh turned the Chargers into winners overnight. Yes they had the QB but he assembled a competent staff, bypassed Nabers and took a tackle even though the receiving room has been depleted knowing receivers are not nearly as valuable as tackles. So it depends on so much.

A tackle is a foundation piece as well as guards and centers. They play every offensive down. Every successful play requires each of them to do a very good job on almost every play, running, passing, trick...I don't care how many offensive linemen they draft, until they get it right, it ain't gonna work.

Quote from: katkavage on December 02, 2024, 04:21:44 PMThis is a silly poll. There is no way you can make a determination now. It depends what happens after the season. If Schoen and Daboll remain. Who is the QB next year. If they are not retained who takes over. Harbaugh turned the Chargers into winners overnight. Yes they had the QB but he assembled a competent staff, bypassed Nabers and took a tackle even though the receiving room has been depleted knowing receivers are not nearly as valuable as tackles. So it depends on so much. With the right moves they could be a playoff team next year. Very very doubtful if Daboll returns. Less so if Schoen returns.

 I agree, this entire thinking is just silly. As I have said countless times already, I am about the biggest glass-half-empty guy probably on this board. But, I see the makings of a solid team even now. The missing piece is the QB. Get us a QB who can play that position well and I think we can be competitive next year and a playoff team in 2026.
Yes  there are several missing pieces but with some money to spend and another  positive draft, we can compete, and isn't that the goal all the time?
I have confidence in Schoen and as he learns on  the fly, he  realizes his mistakes and is moving on t o correct them.

Any update on Lawrence's condition? I'm more concerned about him than about this Shahir loser.

Hill is a big part of their offense. This is terrible news for him obviously, but it's also bad news for us (in my opinion at least) as it increases our chances of winning.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on December 02, 2024, 04:40:07 PMAnyone see Leonard Williams pick six?

  

I'm not entirely sure how to start this thread but I'll put my thoughts out there and let less preoccupied minds than mine opine.

Maybe it's just me but I look across the league and see a marked trend in quarterback guarantees coming back to bite the team that issued them.  Obviously the cap implications of cutting Daniel Jones are top of mind for wannabe Giants GMs as we look towards the future, but take a look around and I think you'll agree teams are misfiring on QBs more than ever before but hamstringing themselves with bloated contracts.

- Trevor Lawrence is in his 4th year and fresh off a deal that tied him with Joe Burrow as the highest paid player in the NFL.  The Jaguars have the worst record in the league and illustrate an offensive ineptitude that would make even the Giants take note.  He may get shut down for the rest of the season after a vicious concussion yesterday.
- Tua Tagovailoa also inked a massive off-season deal.  He's had at least 4 concussions (probably 5) in the past two years and while everyone seems to be happy he's out there playing again, you do cross your fingers that he doesn't incur another that might ultimately prove career-ending.
- The Cowboys completely misplayed any advantage they might have had with Dak Prescott and have now twice been forced to sign him to extreme deals.  While you can argue that his regular season efficacy is well above average outside of this year, his lack of post-season accolades leave many scratching their head.
- The Browns are stuck with DeShaun Watson for at least 2 more years if not longer based on the guarantees they gave out.  He's been very injury prone in his tenure there and ineffective when healthy.
- Kirk Cousins and Kyler Murray are different stories but both are raking in sizeable money with middling results.  It looks even worse for Cousins coming off a season lost to injury and playing poorly of late.  The dead money cap hits to cut either after this season would be in excess of 60m (although the Cardinals clearly won't do that). 
- Add in Daniel Jones and thats nearly a quarter of the league with issues at QB.  Some can't be cut either because the cap implications are too severe or because the QB is doing just good enough to not warrant it or make you think they're turning the corner.  Some can be cut, but doing so limits your ability to add key free agents or build around the new QB.

This feels like a new problem - I for sure remember QBs flaming out at a high clip in the past but I don't remember it being so franchise-altering to make a bad decision. 

Quote from: katkavage on November 30, 2024, 02:35:55 PMWhat has Daboll done well? I'm still waiting for a real answer to that.

Coach of the year in 2022

Anyone see Leonard Williams pick six?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 02, 2024, 04:21:47 PMAnd significantly above average cost of living, to boot.

I should have included that fantastic point, Jeff.