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Cam Ward VS Shedeur Sanders VS Jaxson Dart

Started by MightyGiants, February 02, 2025, 05:19:06 PM

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Ed Vette

Quote from: Gmo11 on March 04, 2025, 09:31:37 AMI think his personality would mesh well with the offense which is full of young guys.  Nabers appears to already have a nice relationship with him.  They could use a little moxy from the QB position for a change.  If he's the guy that the team deems the best fit I'm fine with it.  I personally think Ward and Dart from a skillset standpoint are both better, and if the rumors of the Giants trying to move up to #1 are true they at the very least agree about Ward. But if they don't move up and just take Sanders at 3 then they roll with Sanders.  No matter who they pick he's likely to be an upgrade over what they've been dealing with the better part of the last decade.
I think Sanders will be a good QB on the right team, and NY isn't one of those teams. A dome stadium would be best and he would be a great fit for the Saints. 
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Quote from: MightyGiants on March 04, 2025, 01:22:59 PMhttps://x.com/TyreeNation/status/1896605620473614374
Why didn't he just say, there are better players at 3? He's not wrong. It would be monumentally stupid to move up to pick a QB too.
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~ Coach Tom Coughlin

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Quote from: Ed Vette on March 04, 2025, 11:51:54 AMI think Sanders will be a good QB on the right team, and NY isn't one of those teams. A dome stadium would be best and he would be a great fit for the Saints. 

He feels a bit like Chad Pennington to me at this point.  Good timing thrower but nothing overwhelming.

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Quote from: MightyGiants on March 05, 2025, 11:22:08 AM

That may be one of the best summary charts I have ever seen.  Well done Rich.

I like how Dart has thrown more deep balls yet maintained a good completion %.

Am a bit troubled that Ward is only 6'1".  He has weight at 219 so not frail but shorter is harder to see over.

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#279
https://x.com/NFL/status/1897394072052256853

1
Tennessee Titans

Shedeur Sanders
Colorado · QB · Senior
Tennessee has all the options with the No. 1 overall pick. In this scenario, second-year head coach Brian Callahan channels his Cincinnati days, seeing in Sanders some of the same qualities Joe Burrow possesses.

Pick
2
Cleveland Browns

Cam Ward
Miami · QB · Senior
Ward has been on quite the upward trajectory -- going from Incarnate Word to Washington State to Miami -- and the quarterback-starved Browns bank on that continuing in Cleveland.

Pick
3
New York Giants

Jaxson Dart
Mississippi · QB · Senior
The last time the Giants went all in on a QB from Ole Miss, it worked out pretty well. I know people have not been projecting Dart to go this high, but New York has a screaming need at the position. After passing on Michael Penix Jr., J.J. McCarthy and Bo Nix in last year's draft, the G-Men might not feel like they can sit back and wait this time around.

https://www.nfl.com/news/charles-davis-2025-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-qbs-shedeur-sanders-cam-ward-and-jaxson-dart-go-1-2-3
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On Jaxson Dart:

"I watched every single game for the whole time he was playing, I watched every play of every game against every opponent,'' Charlie Weis told The Post. "I know if I was coaching in this league, and this is no disrespect to Cam Ward or [Shedeur] Sanders because I think they're both heckuva players. But I know if I was coaching in the league right now I'd want him as my quarterback. Because I already know what I'm getting on the field and I know what I'm getting off the field and I know I can win with him.''

https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/sports/charlie-weis-makes-bold-jaxson-dart-claim-as-ole-miss-qb-rises-up-nfl-draft-boards/
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My feeling is that if the Giants are to come away from this Draft with a QB with any real chance of being or soon becoming their 2025 starter, it will have to be either Ward, Sanders, or Dart. However, in doing so, I hope to not see them trade up from 3. Moreover, I would prefer that with the best of good fortune, they will be able to take Travis Hunter at 3 and trade up for Dart somewhat later in the 1st.

And if not, I would prefer them to get an above average Veteran QB1, roll with a later Round rookie QB2 and wait until next year. Yeah sure, like much or any of that's gonna happen. Stop it now! Behave yourself.

Cheers!   

Ed Vette

JT broke down ever single game of Shedeur Sanders 2024 games. I saw most of them. This is the the most complete evaluation you will find and it's from someone who actually played the position.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin