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In the Game thread there were questions as to whether receivers were open downfield and to point out which plays where they were.  Well here is one in addition to the pick 6.

https://twitter.com/nickfalato/status/1709237407844094408?s=61

As stated earlier Jones may not be too smart (football IQ)....I say this because I rarely if ever notice him changing a play based on what he sees from the pre snap defense.

This is something the Giants should examine.

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1709155176236355829?s=61

And here's another play where Jones fails to read the defense pre snap and gets sacked because of it.  Can't put this one on the line.

That video and its description is VERY concerning!

All I can say is WOW

https://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1709240417823166679?s=20

I have no idea what he's looking at. This is what we mean when we say he locks onto A receiver and sees nothing else.



 

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 03, 2023, 12:29:48 PMhttps://x.com/DDuggan21/status/1709240417823166679?s=20

Not every QB misses as many as Jones does on a weekly basis and doesn't make up for it with other throws.  Making up for it with runs only does so much for an offense.

Quote from: T200 on October 03, 2023, 12:30:26 PMI have no idea what he's looking at. This is what we mean when we say he locks onto A receiver and sees nothing else.



 

Exactly, and as Orlovsky pointed out this is a QB in Year 5 not seeing things that someone at this point in his career if he's the guy should be able to see.

I'd like to seeTaylor at QB (if nothing else to evaluate Jones)

Quote from: Rambo89 on October 03, 2023, 12:35:13 PMNot every QB misses as many as Jones does on a weekly basis and doesn't make up for it with other throws.  Making up for it with runs only does so much for an offense.
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Can you show us the stats on the missed receivers?

From my perspective we are WAY past needing stats.

The guy is snake bit and he is a tunnel vision QB at this point

Quote from: Trench on October 03, 2023, 12:38:03 PMI'd like to seeTaylor at QB (if nothing else to evaluate Jones)

There's enough film on Jones. That's why 31 defenses know how to play him.

I'm ready to see Taylor, if for nothing else, we'll see some passes over 20 yards thrown.

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 03, 2023, 12:38:21 PMCan you show us the stats on the missed receivers?

What would be the purpose? There are two egregious plays right here in this thread that speak way louder than any stat could.

Something that I was thinking about and I wonder if it has some validity to it...

Should Jones just concentrate on specific targets and basically force the ball to them? Lets be honest. Guys like Slayton, Campbell and Hodgins are nothing more than replaceable players. However Waller does have mismatch advantages, and Robinson has looked good when healthy. Instead of reading a defense and looking at the replaceable players - should his first read always be Waller or Robinson and if its not there -then go to the others?

The reason I'm saying this is Jones struggles with progressions at times, so that is taken away from him. And for as great as guys like Mahomes and Allen are - you know darn well theyre looking for Kelce and Diggs first then adjusting.

I just dont understand how a guy like Campbell is ever your first read. Now if there are 3 guys on a guy thats different, but maybe forcing it to your play makers will take less pressure off of him.

Quote from: T200 on October 03, 2023, 12:56:00 PMWhat would be the purpose? There are two egregious plays right here in this thread that speak way louder than any stat could.

I am not absolving Jones cause you are right he missed guys yesterday. But this happens quite frequently in the NFL. I watched Herbert one game miss 4 wide open guys for TDs and he checked it down. It does happen. The problem with Jones is that it is magnified because our offense is so bad.

Quote from: T200 on October 03, 2023, 12:56:00 PMWhat would be the purpose? There are two egregious plays right here in this thread that speak way louder than any stat could.

Every QB misses open receivers.  Without stats, it's hard to know if and how much of a problem it is