Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: T200 on December 24, 2024, 12:49:03 PMI know I've said this a bazillion times already: Schoen and Daboll had to show Mara, the only person who wanted Jones and had the influence to make it happen, that Jones was not the answer.

Benching Jones too early would not have proven it. Bringing in a better backup would not have proven it. Jones needed to play and leave no doubt that this team was doomed with him at QB.

I do not disagree with you on Daboll's questionable calls and prep.

I will stand on this: put a better QB on this exact roster in place of Jones at the beginning of the season and I guarantee the record isn't 2-13.

The first part of your post is pure speculation. You don't know that, and neither does anyone else.

The last part is silly. Having Jones as QB doesn't explain a 2-13 record. I'm afraid you have an overly simplistic analysis of this team.m

Quote from: Philosophers on December 24, 2024, 03:07:39 PMChargers were 5-12 last year with Justin Herbert

Because they had no head coach. Now they do.

Quote from: BlueMoshik on December 25, 2024, 03:57:25 AMBecause they had no head coach. Now they do.

That's my point.  Great QB is not a panacea to an automatic good play.  Harbaugh had to fix other things.

Can you imagine the pressure Daboll would be under if he returns next year if he doesn't win games right away. Not to mention trying to hire anyone of quality for his staff knowing he is on such a hot seat. If he comes back it's a recipe for disaster in so many ways, but what it really does is postpone the inevitable and push the transition back another year.

Quote from: BlueMoshik on December 25, 2024, 03:54:37 AMThe first part of your post is pure speculation. You don't know that, and neither does anyone else.

The last part is silly. Having Jones as QB doesn't explain a 2-13 record. I'm afraid you have an overly simplistic analysis of this team.m

Of course it's speculation. I've never suggested that I know more than anyone else here. Looking at how things transpired, that's the most likely scenario that I could envision. While I'm OK with people who don't agree with it, I definitely don't think it's far-fetched either.

Last, I don't have anything overly simplistic view of the team. That's *your* view of my analysis... please don't attribute it to me. Own it.

I've said numerous times that it's more nuanced than that and have laid out exactly how the lack lack of a QB affects the entire team, not just the offense. To suggest that I'm blaming the 2-13 record on Jones is not discussing this in good faith.

For the record, I have no loyalty or allegiance to Schoen and Daboll. My views are based on what I would do if I was in Mara's position and what little I know of football. As much as I want both of them back, I don't dismiss other points of view that want them gone. There's good reasons on both sides, IMHO.

Quote from: T200 on December 23, 2024, 08:38:42 PMIsn't that usually how it goes?

Do you think they'd be as successful with Daniel Jones instead of the QBs they had?

Nah! Blame it on the kicker, um, all the kickers, for all the missed game winners, and pay no attention to those blocked kicks; we're blaming those on the kickers as well!

So there!

Peace!

There's a reason it's called a team sport.

QB
ORT
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WR - stud opposite Nabers
DT
CB1
RB to pair with Tracy

Quote from: kartanoman on December 25, 2024, 05:56:24 PMNah! Blame it on the kicker, um, all the kickers, for all the missed game winners, and pay no attention to those blocked kicks; we're blaming those on the kickers as well!

So there!

Peace!

For sure! No one is exempt from criticism and blame!