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The Ultimate Dark Horse Pick Of The 2025 NFL Draft (Jaxson Dart)

Started by brownelvis54, December 07, 2024, 06:16:59 PM

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todge

It's pretty much a given that Sanders and Ward will go one or two. With so many holes to fill, can't see the Giants giving up Draft capital to move up.

The other QBs - Ewers, Milroe and Dart will in all likelihood be the next three with the latter perhaps falling into the 2nd Round. If the Giants stay at four, I would be very surprised if they opted for Ewers and can't see them taking Milroe that high. Instead, OT Will Campbell LSU looks like the logical choice unless Hunter drops to four.

But it doesn't make a difference. No QB will be successful until the Giants fix their OL, add another weapon and change the play calling. The Giants destroyed DJ and will do so to the next QB until the "situation " changes.

Welcome to "QB hell" Giants!


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Ed Vette

It's a long way off, but I don't see these QB's going off one and two. I'm very disappointed in Sanders last stand. I think Cam will be there for the Giants if they want him. He would be my preference at this point. I still have a lot of film to watch though. I ask myself if I would take Cam over Maye, no. Williams, maybe. Daniels, absolutely not. JJ, yes. Bo, no. Penix, yes.
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Woody

Dart won't be a dark horse if all this hype continues....however , I think if he truly is day two selection the Giants should grab him after signing a vet Free agency....He has tools to play in NFL and attitude as well.....bring him along slowly and let him sit and learn..why not..The last thing the Giants should do is trade away draft capitol to move up and get Sander or Ward..no way

Jclayton92

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If you don't have time to watch a ton of tape on Dart, I'd recommend these two scout videos on Dart. Second one is really short with the first being a little longer.

Ed Vette

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 05, 2025, 10:21:01 AMhttps://youtu.be/GcZ0NgB7Bzg?si=ywAlNDUFIi-cShRy

If you don't have time to watch a ton of tape on Dart, I'd recommend these two scout videos on Dart. Second one is really short with the first being a little longer.
All Pre-Snap reads to an intended Receiver.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Jclayton92

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 05, 2025, 10:49:50 AMAll Pre-Snap reads to an intended Receiver.
That's because of the communication rules in the NFL. Kiffin is an offensive savant, and because he can communicate with Dart up until they snap the ball he can basically use it like a cheat code, read the defense, and tell Dart the read. You can go back to Dart as a freshman at Southern Cal and see him running a different offense and going through progressions.

Painter

As I don't see the Giants getting Ward unless they trade up- please don't- I'm ready to start thinking about them waiting until Round 2 to take a flier on Jaxson Dart.

While Jalen Milroe has the speed, and arm strength to give him a huge upside, his mechanics and accuracy are as yet so poor as to leave me in a risk/reward dilemma. That's not the case with Dart, who may not have Milroe's arm, but looks like a very accurate and poised NFL-ready thrower of the ball.

They could then add Will Campbell- LSU OT, for a not too shabby btb.

Quien sabe! We'll just have to wait.

Cheers!   

Jclayton92

Quote from: Painter on January 05, 2025, 02:29:16 PMAs I don't see the Giants getting Ward unless they trade up- please don't- I'm ready to start thinking about them waiting until Round 2 to take a flier on Jaxson Dart.

While Jalen Milroe has the speed, and arm strength to give him a huge upside, his mechanics and accuracy are as yet so poor as to leave me in a risk/reward dilemma. That's not the case with Dart, who may not have Milroe's arm, but looks like a very accurate and poised NFL-ready thrower of the ball.

They could then add Will Campbell- LSU OT, for a not too shabby btb.

Quien sabe! We'll just have to wait.

Cheers!   

Take a look at Cameron Williams, he's a true RT. Campbell, while being technically the best tackle prospect will have to play guard in the NFL because of his arms. So Banks, Simmons, and Ersery will be the top 3 tackle prospects but will play LT. The best pure RTs will be Cameron Williams and Emory Jones.

Ed Vette

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 05, 2025, 12:52:43 PMThat's because of the communication rules in the NFL. Kiffin is an offensive savant, and because he can communicate with Dart up until they snap the ball he can basically use it like a cheat code, read the defense, and tell Dart the read. You can go back to Dart as a freshman at Southern Cal and see him running a different offense and going through progressions.
Six games as a Freshman, 9 TD and 5 Int? Seriously??

I'm a JD fan but let's not say he has the chops to compete at the next level.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Jclayton92

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 05, 2025, 04:25:57 PMSix games as a Freshman, 9 TD and 5 Int? Seriously??

I'm a JD fan but let's not say he has the chops to compete at the next level.
I wasn't saying those games were something amazing, or anything like that. I was simply trying to state that if you wanted to see him in a different offense than kiffins he filled in for the starter that got injured as a freshman.

brownelvis54

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