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Is it worth to keep jones next year

Started by ralphpal1, September 18, 2024, 01:51:22 PM

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coggs

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on September 19, 2024, 03:22:16 PMWell, according to his coaches, he is excellent at reading defenses. I'm no coach and I have no inside information, but I believe his QB coaches know whether or not DJ understands and reads defenses
What they really think and what they say publicly can be 2 very different things.

Gmo11

Quote from: coggs on September 20, 2024, 10:37:33 AMWhat they really think and what they say publicly can be 2 very different things.

I have absolutely no doubts that in the film room he knows exactly what to do and how to do it.

It's when he gets out on the field where the trouble occurs. He's certainly not the first and won't be the last QB with this infliction. But it doesn't appear to be curable.

Doc16LT56

Quote from: Gmo11 on September 20, 2024, 10:46:49 AMI have absolutely no doubts that in the film room he knows exactly what to do and how to do it.

It's when he gets out on the field where the trouble occurs. He's certainly not the first and won't be the last QB with this infliction. But it doesn't appear to be curable.
Right. Classroom intelligence isn't the same as fast processing during a play.

I think a good analogy is how some chess grand masters struggle at speed chess. If you give them time, they can anticipate every possible move, but when the pressure of the clock is added they become one dimensional.

AZGiantFan

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on September 20, 2024, 10:53:34 AMRight. Classroom intelligence isn't the same as fast processing during a play.

I think a good analogy is how some chess grand masters struggle at speed chess. If you give them time, they can anticipate every possible move, but when the pressure of the clock is added they become one dimensional.

In golf they call this being a Ranger Rick, who can't take the practice range out to the course.  It also makes those blackboard sessions at the combine seem a little over-rated in their importance.
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Quote from: Doc16LT56 on September 20, 2024, 10:53:34 AMRight. Classroom intelligence isn't the same as fast processing during a play.

I think a good analogy is how some chess grand masters struggle at speed chess. If you give them time, they can anticipate every possible move, but when the pressure of the clock is added they become one dimensional.

Great analogy Doc. For a slower processing QB the simpler the reads the faster they can progress. Jones is defintely not élite in this category but he can be good potentially in a simpler system.

Hadron

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 20, 2024, 10:35:57 AMDidn't Jones play like one preseason series last year?

Again, this unwavering faith in a QB who simply lacks the chops to be a starter in this league.

Does he have the athleticism and work ethic? Sure. He's just missing that processing ability that starters possess. Davis Webb is a guy that had a lot of positive factors save for one: processing the field.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Hadron on September 20, 2024, 07:13:18 PMAgain, this unwavering faith in a QB who simply lacks the chops to be a starter in this league.

Does he have the athleticism and work ethic? Sure. He's just missing that processing ability that starters possess. Davis Webb is a guy that had a lot of positive factors save for one: processing the field.

What "faith" are you referring to?  I simply felt it was inappropriate to say the guy who got screwed over royally by NYG (even the owner admits it) should be accused of "leaching" off the team.
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