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Matthew Stafford

Started by Brooklyn Dave, February 10, 2025, 05:09:22 PM

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The problem isn't Matt Stafford. He's a really good QB. It's Joe Schoen trying to build a roster to compete immediately around Stafford. What's Stafford's window 1-2 years? In three years, Joe Schoen's roster isn't as good as the one he inherited in 2022 and those are John Mara's words, not mine.
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DaveBrown74

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 19, 2025, 08:49:25 AMJeff,

It seems like the two of them have lost some of the passion for their podcast.  The latest show was a low-effort show.  The show used to be driven by Nick doing tape breakdowns, but I think this past losing season sort of pushed them off that approach.

Rich,

You're right; I do remember listening to a number of these where Nick provided comprehensive X's and O's game analysis and also had some pretty esoteric takes on draft prospects that seemed sharper than your average stuff you get from most of the pundits.

Schneier seems like he's a nice enough guy, but he strikes me as not really any more additive to a Giants or NFL dialogue than most typical, everyday fans I know. That's not a bad knowledge level, but most everyday fans don't expect significant numbers of people to listen to them talk about stuff they already know about for 80 minutes. Particularly when that 80 minutes includes takes like "the cap doesn't matter."

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https://x.com/GiantInsider/status/1892568209804472772


He acts as an NYG mouthpiece and is pretty tied in.   That said, from what I hear, the Ram's first choice is to retain Stafford, so that will have to be derailed before the talks or interest would be meaningful.
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EDjohnst1981

I'd be very surprised if any deal includes a pick in this years draft.

I suspect it'll be a conditional pick for future drafts(s) that is tied to advancing to the Super Bowl.

If anyone ponies up a straight up first for Stafford. They are ridiculous.

Jclayton92

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on February 20, 2025, 10:41:37 AMI'd be very surprised if any deal includes a pick in this years draft.

I suspect it'll be a conditional pick for future drafts(s) that is tied to advancing to the Super Bowl.

If anyone ponies up a straight up first for Stafford. They are ridiculous.
I'd do a conditional 2026 3rd that could turn into a 2nd with certain benchmarks.

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The Athletic has a good article with Dan Duggan and the Rams beat writer.  It's behind a paywall


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6146076/2025/02/20/matthew-stafford-trade-giants-rams/
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DaveBrown74

My guess is the Rams don't actually want Stafford to leave but may believe there is a disconnect between his perception of his market value and what they believe it to be.

If it proves that Stafford is right and they're wrong, then my guess is they'd be willing to consider trading him.


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Here are some teams that could trade for Stafford:

 Las Vegas Raiders: The team that acquires Stafford will need to pay him, and no quarterback-needy team has more cap space than the Raiders. Tom Brady will be searching for a franchise quarterback, but given that he could be out of reach for Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward, he may want a short-term solution to make his team relevant.

 Pittsburgh Steelers: Russell Wilson and Justin Fields didn't get the job done last year. They're both impending free agents, so the Steelers don't have a single quarterback on their roster at the moment. Despite the miserable quarterbacking, the Steelers were able to reach the playoffs the past two years. Stafford would give Pittsburgh a massive upgrade at the position and automatically make the team a Super Bowl contender. The Steelers have $60 million in cap space to get this deal done.

 New York Giants: The Giants will probably be able to get one of Sanders or Ward, but if they don't like either very much, they could pull the trigger on a Stafford trade. They have $48 million in cap space, so the financial implications won't be an issue.

 New York Jets: Will the Jets try another veteran quarterback? They don't have the most cap space ($23.8 million), but they are desperate to find an answer at the position. This team went 7-10 with Zach Wilson in 2023, so Stafford should be able to get them to the playoffs.

 Minnesota Vikings: The Vikings must be listed as an option. Not only do they have tons of cap space; Kevin O'Connell is Stafford's former offensive coordinator. However, this trade would only make sense if the Vikings have soured on J.J. McCarthy.

 Tennessee Titans: The Titans have plenty of cap space and a need at quarterback, but I believe they will target Aaron Rodgers.

https://walterfootball.com/nflpossibilities.php
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Dan Duggan
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Talking to
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 about Matthew Stafford and the Rams, it's obvious that any fracture would be based on money (as it usually is).

That leads me to two thoughts: 1. They'll probably work it out since that's best for both sides. 2. If the Rams in their position don't want to make the necessary commitment to Stafford how would it make sense for the Giants in their position, especially since they'd also need to part with valuable draft picks?
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Jclayton92

I'd much rather trade a 4th rd pick for Joe Milton, than a 2nd for Matt Stafford. Does that make me crazy lol?