What are we watching these days?

[LennG]

I do not have access to HBO / MAX but I do know The Penguin is a show folks are talking about.
Along the same lines, there was a show called "Gotham" on FOX between 2014 - 2019, which was a kind of origin story for Batman. (One of the many!) I loved it. It was a kind of origin story for a lot of the Batman characters, including the Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler. I thought it was very well done and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I don't know how dark or violent the Penguin is, Gotham wasn't really dark, but it set a very good mood for the story. If any of you Penguin fans can find Gotham streaming somewhere, give it a go.

 I watched Gotham right from the get-go. I stopped before its last season as I felt it was getting a bit too silly, but the first couple of years were great.

The Penguin is similar, mostly set in a dark environment, with low lighting but a bit more violent, as it is on HBO. Overall, I felt it was tame compared to many shows on HBO, with no real blood and gore and no sex at all.

[Jolly Blue Giant]

I watched Gotham right from the get-go. I stopped before its last season as I felt it was getting a bit too silly, but the first couple of years were great.
 

Exactly what I did. I loved it for the first few seasons (as is my nature, I fell in love with Marina Baccarin ["Leslie"] and really liked Camren Bicondova [the young Catwoman]...it was interesting that Ben McKenzie ["James Gordan"] and Marina Baccarin were husband and wife in real life), but then it started going downhill...typical of series in which you run out of ideas or characters leave (or child actors age to adulthood), but the writers have to come up with something to keep it going for the ka-ching. Think "Lost", one of the best series in television history, but it ran out of gas when the writers ran out of ideas and the plot had gotten silly. Dittos with "Blacklist", which was one of the most interesting series that I can remember, that ran out of gas after one of the main characters was killed off

There's something to be said about "going out on top". Dragging things out to keep the coin coming in might work for a while, but eventually it gets stale and pisses off the audience. I do wish Kevin Costner had stuck around for the last season of "Yellowstone". Even his character's suicide had to be done by a fill-in, cuz Costner wasn't around anymore because of his hissy fit with Taylor Sheridan. A really inglorious way to rid the chief character from a show, IMO. I think Sheridan did it on purpose to get even with Costner. There's a dozen ways to kill off a character without scripting in his suicide

[EDjohnst1981]

Awww man.

Spoiler alert on certain things. Yellowstone is literally just out.