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Will he continue to be used effectively under a new DC and scheme?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on June 01, 2024, 01:49:56 PMI fully expect the O line to improve this year. We have brought in multiple established veteran O linemen who have been solid for other teams. Our new O line coach ran a solid unit at another team. If our line doesn't at least improve to being mediocre this year, I will start to wonder if their seeming ineptitude is for other reasons.

I am already wondering that.  Wrong player for blocking scheme?  Player out of position or on wrong side of OL?

I simply dont know

OBJ's catch was with back arched so much he looked like he'd snap it.

I see no reason to be optimistic about the OL at this point.  They've had a revolving door of OL coaches, lots of draft picks, etc and it has failed to produce an average OL much less a good one.  Until they succeed, I won't believe it.

If it's 2nd week of August and Giants still have not identified their starting 5 OL and are not giving the same 5 a ton of reps at each practice, Giants will be 8-9 or worse.  Giants OL will bring down the entire season.

Hope you are stronger JMS.  Strength and good technique are necessary.

Love that.  Players seem to respond to former players who were very good.

Said it before charges woukd be dripped.  Nice guy who may have made a small mistake that did not rise to level of crime and a city realizing the public relations nightmare that would follow if they went forward on subpar evidence.  Would have looked vindictive and not smart.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 30, 2024, 10:03:15 AMIt's a website/service founded by "the football doc," the former physician of the Chargers.   They do medical assessments on players with an eye toward servicing gamblers and fantasy football players (I think they do other sports as well).   I consider it a qualified opinion (where teams tend to be more tight-lipped) but with the limitation that they don't have access to the player's medical records or test results.

How do they do a medical assessment without medical reports or being able to examine him after practices to see if there is swelling or asking DJ questions?

Who will be MVP or who must be are two very different questions in my mind.  Who will be can be several.  Who must be for the Giants to have success has to be DJ.

I dont want the Giants to go back to the 2022 offensive passing style. Get me some Kevin Gilbride.

Quote from: Ed Vette on May 28, 2024, 09:20:59 PMNot to be negative, but I am taking a wait-and-see approach.

Hardly negative

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 28, 2024, 04:46:19 PMhttps://www.pff.com/news/nfl-explosive-plays-and-re-thinking-offensive-success

Amazing read if you are into analytics and a real thought provoking read as we see how Daboll has built this offense.

Every position now has a piece capable of an explosive play whether its Nabers, Wan Dale, Slayton, Waller, and Singletary.

Singletary finished 13th in explosives last season despite less opportunities.

We have been horrible at EPA, Explosives, and Big time throws.

In Buffalo Daboll had Allen reaching tops in Explosives, BTTR, and EPA. You add that context to the team we've built, and you can tell he's laying a foundation.

Jess - for a team to be aggressive offensively it takes a coach to trust the offense, a QB with a big play mindset but also trust in the defense to stop the other team if a big play misses causing a punt.

Do we have all that?

I always admired complete basketball players - players who played great defense, passed like a savant, set screens, helped out, made a great chest or bounce pass and scored.  Walton was that player.  Too bad he had all those foot injuries.

Quote from: londonblue on May 27, 2024, 05:59:53 PMI agree on the give me wins sentiment Philosophers but I have to take issue on lucky v strong wins. I never played pro sports but I was a small cog in a talented team that won a national schools rugby title (my school's only one ever) here in UK. The team included 5 schoolboy internationals and two became adult internationals (1 England, 1 Ireland).

We squeaked a 15-12 win with a dismal performance in the round of 32 against a team we had beaten by 40 points earlier in the season. I stunk. Most of us did.

We were so down when we came off the field but our coach (a former England international) told us see it for the gift it was and to make the most of it by going on to win it all. We were 100% focused every game from them remembering our good fortune and won 4 consecutive games, the last 2 as the clear underdog, to win it all.

Sometimes the lucky wins create a platform for future stronger wins. We will see this season if the feeling and experience some of our younger guys got from those late season wins help them grow and compete better this year. I know it can happen. Not a given but no win is ever a waste in my opinion.

You make a great point.  I do think those moments are rare though.  I like to say that wins against top opponents are huge and wins against subpar teams are expected.  Same with individual play/stats.

Look at Michigan this year.  They beat up some bad teams early and folks questioned how good they were.  It was a legitimate question.  It was not until they beat Ohio St. Alabama, Washington and others and players had huge performances in those top games that they won the respect of people.